Why I feel its highly unlikely we’ll get a WW2 Ace Combat

I have seen in polls that some want a WW2 Ace Combat Video Game and I know there are a few or some who’d like an Ace Combat game set around WW2 or the 1940s but I have to drop cold water on that for several reasons

To rehash a previous point form my WW1 Post the few jets, weapon options and surviving aircraft would cause problems but this time I think there is more than just this

Side note: as a point I’ll link to a post on a Japanese WW2 plane in the UK https://www.reddit.com/r/acecombat/comments/ktqbuw/uks_rare_japanese_ww2_aircraft/

Next is the matter of Japan’s very messy history of the Imperial Japanese Empire and how it affected the countries Japan invaded and with atrocities that Japan committed back then which I will not name and technically not how sure which countries, it is but there is likely lingering resentment against Japan for the atrocities committed, in fact Germany and Italy go out of their way to make sure that when Germany and Italy were at their worst is not taught and is some things actually illegal to show.

The PA when they used them in AC0 for Belka drawing on Nazi Germany and Erusea apparently drawing on Fascist Italy yeah the writers of those game probably had to be very careful and in today’s climate, Yeah I’d think the PA Team would play safe and not want to risk causing controversy as that’s the last thing they need as it would hurt the game when trying to sell it

Yeah the Sky crawlers is likely the best we’re gonna get as I’ll re-iterate with a comment I made on my ww1 post and I quote: the earliest we’d probably go is the 1950s at best

Why the 50s is the earliest well they’d have jets form that era to look at for the game and have more special weapon options to choose from and they’d not have any controversy risk of Japan’s messy history

Update: I just realised something else the complicated ship classification system in use back then and aircraft role classifications

why I can’t see a WW1 era Ace Combat

So I know there are a tiny few who want a WW1 era AC Game to cover the Osean War of 1905 to 1910 but don’t think we’ll see that for 1 reason the lack of surviving WW1-era planes

Why?

Well presumably when the PA Team are making the assets for the game they’d want to use examples of the aircraft that exist which is the problem with WW1 Bi and Tri-planes as with WW2, Cold War and Modern stuff there are enough that they can get pics however there are few WW1 Era planes that exist today with some ww1 aircraft not surviving today at all which is a really major setback as a picture can only give a limited information

So as much as it would be nice to have a WW1 era game given the lack of models from that time I honestly don’t believe there will be one

Emmerian aircraft carriers through the ages

In the final post of my aircraft carriers through time series

The Republic of Emmeria the nation that fought in a conflict they likely weren’t expecting to be in but still won but like Yuketobania and other nations haven’t been operating carriers as long as North Point or Osea so let’s get started

we begin in the 1940s where I really have to suspect there must have been some kind of global conflict as the Emmerian Navy had a large number of surface ships and submarines which makes me wonder if Emmeria had global superpower ambitions at the time but somehow got crushed.

But I’m only focusing on the aircraft carriers which at this time were five classes made up of Aquila class and Sparviero class aircraft carriers which like most of the earliest aircraft carriers were conversions of other ships such as in Emmeria’s case two ocean liners but Emmeria also had Colossus class and Majestic class light aircraft carriers and Ruler class escort aircraft carriers

As we come to the 1950s the fleet had been reduced to light aircraft carriers the Colossus class and Majestic class light aircraft carriers although when the sixties came by they only had the Colossus class and the Majestic class light aircraft carriers had been decommissioned leaving the Majestic class light aircraft carrier which was retired in 1970 then for the next 15 years Emmeria had no aircraft carriers until 1985 when the Emmerian made Giuseppe Garibaldi class light aircraft carrier was commissioned which was the only carrier in the Emmerian fleet throughout the 1990s until 2004 when the fleet rose to 2 carriers with a single Cavour class light aircraft carrier coming into service.

At some point before the Emmerian-Estovakian War of 2015-2016 Emmeria acquired a Nimitz class aircraft carrier bringing their fleet to three carrier however its up for debate if they had it built for them by their arms supplier Macmillan Heavy Industries or they bought one from Osea in the years before the Emmerian-Estovakian War and assuming all thee class of carrier ships survived the war this would be the fleet they have currently but the Giuseppe Garibaldi class light aircraft carrier scheduled to be replaced in 2022 by a single Trieste class helicopter carrier which will reduce the fleet to two class of carriers

so I hope you all enjoyed this series which I’m a bit sad to see end as Sapin only has three carriers and the Nordlands only a single class of aircraft carrier which sadly ain’t enough to justify a carriers through time post but Aurelia might get one as they’ve only operated four classes of aircraft carriers so I’ll think on it if to do one on Aurelia so watch this space

Belka aircraft carriers through time

so after doing the superpowers and North Point which for some reason is inappropriate on the sub-reddit for some reason of which I have no clue so I thought I’d move to Belka the country who fought a war 25 years ago and become an overused meme

I had to rely on scars of Ulysses for carrier information of the 1990s

We start in the 1910s with Belka’s first aircraft carrier the I-class aircraft carrier which was a converted emmerian passenger ship which was scrapped in the 20s.

We come to the 1940s where Belka rapidly grew its navy carrier force with carrier ships made of graf zeppelin class aircraft carrier, passenger ships converted into a jade class aircraft carrier , admiral hipper class cruiser into weser class aircraft carrier, a belkan ocean liner converted into an I-class aircraft carrier and an incomplete erusean cruiser converted into a II-class aircraft carrier.

I shouldn’t be surprised but i suspect Belka bought u-boat attack submarines over surface ships

I wonder if Belka lost this possible 1940s conflict as Osea had more carriers than them but moving on to the 1950s Belka replaced their obsolete carriers with Njord class aircraft carrier which following how carriers are named irl with the first being a name of a class so the Njord is the lead ship of the Njord class aircraft carriers which served until 1995 when it was sunk during the battle of Futuro Canal but where do I see the Belkan carrier fleet going in the future

honestly I have no clue as Belka likely has been under something like the Treaty of Versailles that heavily limits the belkan military for the past 25 years

anyway that’s all for Belka gotta say I’m disappointed for a nation who deployed nukes and the first use of ICBMs I was expecting much more from them

North Point Carriers Through Time

So I’ve done the global superpowers but I figured maybe let’s focus on a different nation like North Point who may have been a global superpower in the past but rising powers and time diminished North Point’s greatness to what it is today.

I am of course using my nation’s history here as it had the largest empire the world will ever see starting in either the 1490s or 1600s and at its peak in 1922 had 458 million people under its rule and covered a quarter of the earth’s land but enough about that let’s move on to the ships as some of these might surprise you as North Point has been operating carriers for over a century so let’s begin

we’ll start at the beginning with the 1910s where North Point had Argus class aircraft carrier itself a converted ocean passenger liner although converted form other ships was common as Osea’s first carrier fleet was a converted Proteus class collier ships and now we head to the roaring 20s.

In the 20s North Point grew its carrier fleet to two carrier class ships with its existing 1 Argus class aircraft carrier and added Courageous class aircraft carriers which had been battlecruisers although if I do Erusea at some point I think North Point was the top dog in Usean back in the day.

Anyway let’s move on to the 30s where North Point added another carrier bring their total to four with their Argus class aircraft carrier, Courageous class aircraft carrier and Eagle class aircraft carrier but the largest fleet increase is still to come like with Osea around this time.

We move to the 1940s which I seriously wonder if there wasn’t some kind of global strangereal world war as the North carrier fleet jumped from 4 to 10 with the already built Argus class aircraft carrier, Courageous class aircraft carrier and Eagle class and Implacable class aircraft carriers but now with Hermes class, Ark Royal class, Unicorn class, Illustrious class aircraft carriers and Colossus-class and Majestic class light aircraft carriers.

As we move into the 1950s

North Point’s fleet had been reduced as carriers had either been sunk or scrapped but the fleet was made up of surviving ships such as the Unicorn class, Illustrious class, Implacable class aircraft carrier and Malta class aircraft carriers but before I come to the light carrier I best explain what the Malta class were.

The Malta class was a proposed large aircraft carrier design during WW2 that were equal to the USA’s midway class however changing priorities, poor timing and the war leaving my country all but bankrupt after the war caused the cancellation of the ships but in Strangereal however I could see North Point building them in the 1940s then upgrading them like Osea with its midway class ships.

The light aircraft carrier fleet was made up of Colossus-class light aircraft carriers as two had been sold on with one going to Erusea and the Nordlands with another being loaned to Emmeria who returned it to North Point who sold it to the Aurelian Navy who used it until it was scrapped in 1999. The remaining light carriers were Majestic class and Centaur class light aircraft carrier.

As we reach what was the end of my nation’s empire years of the swinging sixties, the carrier force had shrunk to the Unicorn class, Illustrious class, Implacable class aircraft carriers along with 5 Colossus-class and Majestic class light aircraft carriers had been retired and replaced by newer more advanced ships.

North Point’s fleet in the 1960s consisted of Malta class and Audacious class aircraft carriers along with Colossus-class, Majestic class and Centaur class light aircraft carriers but the winds of change had more to come.

The 70s came and North Point had retired its last Colossus-class and Majestic class light carriers with that being sold to Strangereal’s India and Centaur which brought their fleet down that at the time was made up of Malta class and Audacious class aircraft carriers and Centaur class light aircraft carriers but the newest additions were the Queen Victoria class aircraft carrier.

The Queen Victoria class is my fanon name for the cancelled CVA-01 Aircraft carrier project but I have a post explaining in a bit more detail about this ship which I’ll link to below

CVA-01 aircraft carrier

As the 1980s rolled around the North Point carrier fleet continued shrinking with the Audacious class aircraft carriers and more than half of the Centaur class light aircraft carriers being withdrawn, all Audacious class aircraft carriers and Centaur class light aircraft carriers withdrawn being scrapped with one being sold to whatever Strangereal’s version of India is.

The fleet at this time were the Malta class and Queen Victoria class aircraft carriers with the light aircraft carrier fleet had Centaur class and Invincible class light aircraft carriers.

Now we come to the 1990s where North Point may have likely being involved in the Usean Rebellion but at this point the North Point fleet shrank to few carriers which I’ve already mentioned but I have to for each decade. They were Malta class aircraft carrier, Queen Victoria class aircraft carrier and Invincible class light aircraft carrier.

We come to the present century after Ulysses where North Point’s carrier fleet had stayed with the Malta class aircraft carrier and Queen Victoria class aircraft carrier and Invincible class light aircraft carrier however as you can guess around this period there was the 1st Continental war but more how on that affected the fleet shortly

but before I do, I bet you’ve got a question what happened to the Malta class aircraft carriers and both remaining centaur class light aircraft carriers well as North Point was seized during the Usean Rebellion you could say these ships were either sunk during the fighting to capture North Point or seized by the rebels and sunk by the Usean Allied forces.

We come to a decade just gone and North Point navy carrier force now reduces once again down to Queen Victoria class aircraft carrier and Invincible class light aircraft carriers.

Remember how I said this a moment ago ‘this period there was the 1st Continental war’ I think the Malta class aircraft carriers and one of the Invincible class light aircraft carrier were sunk by the Eruseans during the war.

Now we come to the Present where the fleet has gone down as the Invincible class ships have gone and been replaced by newer ships so the North Point Royal Navy carrier fleet is built from Queen Victoria class and Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers.

So where do I see North Point’s carrier fleet looking like in the future well as Queen Victoria class come to the end of their lives they’ll likely be replaced by the Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers.

So that was North Point’s carriers and maybe I’ll do the Eruseans or Emmerians

Belkan Army

The Belkan Army the force that once invaded several nations then got its flank handed to it by the combined might of 7 nations and as ac5 showed they have some army troops although what would Belka’s army be like today well that is what i plan to cover but regarding the 7 nuclear detonations as much as they stop Osea from coming through North Osea but i’ll get to my point later

Belka’s Tank force is mostly made up of locally built Leopard Main Battle Tanks which Belka’s force is made up of 124x Leopard 2A4s, 100 Leopard 2A6 and 20 Leopard 2A7Vs however Belka has plans to add 84 more over the coming decade and upgrade the 124x 2A4 & A6s into A7Vs.

Belka’s Armoured Personnel Carrier force is bigger than their tanks with 403 Belkan and Nordland built Boxer APCs but the backbone is 907 Belkan built Tpz Fuchs APC and its Infantry Fighting Vehicle fleet is made up of 332 Puma IFV which they have 228 more to be delivered to replace the 382 Marder IFVs

its Artillery is made up of 121 Belkan PZH2000 Howitzers although 13 are to be decommissioned while its Rocket Force consists of 38 Osean M270 MLRS.

Its Aircraft are only Reconnaissance UAVs whose backbone is made up of 290 Aladin UAVs while its supplemented 84 Luna X-2000 UAV and 20 Luna-NG UAV.

The Belkan Helicopter force is not very big but I’ll explain

Belka’s Attack Helicopter fleet is made up of 68 Erusean manufactured EC-665 Tigers which Belka bought to replace the Belkan Air Force’s AH-64A Apaches as Osea likely wouldn’t sell Belka the newer AH-64D Apache Longbows although given the damage Erusea’s aircraft industry has taken by its latest war I doubt Belka will get any spare parts.

For the Army’s Cargo Transport force would be 77 Belkan, Emmerian and Nordland NH-90 TTH helicopters which replaced the retired CH-53G and GS Cargo Helicopter however given Osea’s likely pressure the 7 left on order would get cancelled.

The Search and Rescue role that the UH-1D Hueys had been filling were becoming obselete so Belka ordered 7 Erusean EC145LUH helicopters. The helicopter trainer fleet is made up of 6 Osean B206B-3 Jet Ranger 3s and its likely replacement of 19 Erusean EC135T1 helicopters.

As for its utility helicopter would be served by 29 Belkan built variant of Osea’s UH-1 in the form of the UH-1D Huey but Osea and Erusea will probably not supply replacements.

Belkan Navy

If you thought the air force was in bad way then the Belkan Navy is much worse

I’ll begin with the Combat Ships

The main attack force is made up of 5 Braunschweig class corvettes with the backbone of its fleet being the 4 Baden-wurttenburg-class frigates along with 3 Sachsen class air defense frigate and 4 Bandenburg class anti-submarine warfare frigates and 1 Bremen class frigate.

Next up is is it’s supply ship fleet which has 3 Berlin class supply ship along with 2 Rhon class supply ship and 6 Elbe class supply ships

The final ship in the active surface fleet are the 3 Oste class spy ships.

Onto the submarine fleet which is mostly made of Attack Submarines in the form of 6 Type 212 U-Boat although Belka has 2 more coming into service soon and a handful of Type 209 and 214 U-Boats.

Now we come to Aircraft

Starting at the Cargo Transport which is comprised of all Osean made with 3 727-100Cs and 2 727-200C and 727-200 Advanceds although Belka had three although tragically on November 6th 2020 one of the 727s crashed in the Waldreich mountains.

The Maritime Patrol needs are filled by 6 ex-Royal Norldlands Navy P-3C Orions however in the wake of the Lighthouse war I strongly doubt Osea will let Belka buy spare parts for their Orions or sell P-8A Poseidon and Erusea is very unlikely to offer the A319-100MPAs to Belka as Erusea need them more.

Their Reconnaissance fleet would be made up of 6 Osean made RQ-20A Puma AE UAVs.

Its Naval VIP Transport fleet would have 1 Osean built Dc-9-32CF and 727-200 Advanced however given what Belka did to Osea in 2010 I doubt they’d sell spare parts for those jets.

We come to helicopters now and we begin with Anti-Submarine Warfare which is a fleet of 21 North Point made WG-30 Lynx Mk.88s which Belka’s replacing with Emmerian,Belkan and Nordlands jointly developed NH-90s but I’ll come to those later.

The Belkan Navy’s Cargo Transport helicopter force would be made up of 11 North Point built WS-61 Sea King HAS.1s converted to transport duties.

Its Search and Rescue operations would be handled North Point made 10 North Point built WS-61 Sea King HAS.1s

Now as the North Point Sea King and Lynx helicopters are getting old and no longer in production Belka had to order the Emmerian,Belkan and Nordland devolped NH-90 and had 6 NH-90 TTH or Sea Lions in service with 12 Cargo Transport and Search and Rescue NH-90 TTHs and 31 NH-90 NFHs or Sea Tigers.

However Given Belka’s Involvement in the Lighthouse war I think Osea would pressure the Emmerian and Nordland governments to remove Belka and to cancel the Belka Navy order for those 43 helicopters and impound the 6 that the Belkan navy has and restricting them from buying anything to replace those Sea King and Lynx helicopters.

Now I want to give Belka’s navy this over the next decade but I’m not sure now.

They have 1 Belka class Super Aircraft Carrier and 3 Midway class UAV Aircraft Carriers with a handful of Kirov class Battlecruisers, Admiral Goshinkov class Aegis Frigate, Udaloy 2-class Destroyers, Admiral Goshinkov class Frigate, Pegasus class Missile Boats and Shadlag and Scimitar class Gun Boats.

I’d give them a handful of combat aircraft such as F-14D Super Tomcats, F-18E and F-Super Hornets, EA-18G Growlers, F-35C Lightning 2 and Su-33M & UB Flanker-Ds